Casting rumors

It’s All In The Accent

I should be writing about how Jennifer Lawrence has lost at the two most recent awards shows she’s attended, and how awful that is, and “poor Jen!”– but I’m not going to, because sometimes it’s not all about Jennifer Lawrence. Yes, even though it’s pretty much been scientifically proven that she is in fact awesome. Nope, today I’m going to wax philosophic over how much I am in hard like with IMDb, and all the amazing little nuggets of information it gives forth when I am quite honestly strapped for article ideas, ’cause there are only so many pieces that can be written about how awesome Jen is. Which she is, we’ve covered that, Jeez!

the_hunger_games__mockingjay_part_1__fan_art__by_phoenixpx-d6ul9fzToday I was perusing my crush object, AKA IMDb.com, reading through The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1’s full cast and crew list, because sometimes as proven in the past, there are nuggets of hidden information hiding in those lines of tiny, text. Like that time I found that Ripper had been cast and was for real in The Hunger Games: Catching Fire, you’ll remember her, she was the woman Katniss helped during the raid aftermath at The Hob. However, this time around I spent an exorbitant amount of time looking at the technical and behind the scenes listings, searching out costumers names, and stunt people’s past and current projects, and then I found the name Francie Brown, and the annotation, “dialect coach: Mr. Cusack”. Now, I only know of one Mr. Cusack in the film business, I’m sure there are others, but most likely those Mr. Cusacks don’t require the employ of a dialect coach. So, if you’re on the same page as me, and I don’t mean webpage, I mean thought process, this particular Mr. Cusack is none other than John Cusack of Say Anything, Grosse Pointe Blank, Being John Malkovich, Serendipity (don’t lie, you saw it too!), High Fidelity, Anastasia, and about a million other known and semi known films– fame. I think I might be a little bit psychic, guys. Or, I don’t know what the hell is going on, but sometimes I have casting ideas that either do come true in full, or only in part. For instance I picked out Julianne Moore for Coin over 6 months before she was cast, I also secretly thought of Sam Claflin for Finnick a year before he was cast, I also thought that Stanley Tucci would have been a great President Snow way before he was cast in the role of Caesar Flickerman. Kind of glad he got Flickerman, actually.

Which brings me to Cusack being a rumored cast member, because I of course scrolled up on the page and saw that he was listed– but the pesky “rumored” annotation was there. Face it, if they’re hiring out a dialect coach for him though, and the said dialect coach is listed in the credits– I’m pretty damn sure he’s not a rumored cast member, but that he is one. And before anyone points out to me that anyone with an IMDb-pro account, can alter an IMDb page’s listings, the information that is more often than not altered, added, and retracted, is usually done by day-players trying to pad their resumes, not reputable dialect coaches who have been the coach to shocked_faceChristian Bale multiple times on multiple projects (like, all the Batman movies!)– she’s the real deal naysayers of the world. Almost a year ago in February I wrote this, an article fan-casting John and Joan Cusack in the roles of Boggs and Coin. Yep, so that didn’t happen, the casting of those specific actors in those specific roles that is, but John Cusack has magically shown up in the cast list for one of the Mockingjay films– and I’m just going to take that as a sign from the giant unicorn I worship, that something amazing is going on down at the casting offices for this film franchise.

Cusack is a boon– people, not quite as starry-eyed-amazing-and-shiny-fantastic as getting Hoffman, and Moore, but he comes with clout, and chops, and intelligence, and years, and years, and years of experience. There’s no information on what role he’s allegedly taken on, but judging from the whole dialect coach thing, I’m going to make an educated stab in the dark here, and say he’s playing someone from the Capitol– the only place in Panem with any discernible accent. However, if I had my way he’d be playing Doctor Aurelius, but unfortunately Aurelius is from District 13– an area of Panem that according to canon, has no noticeable accent. Cusack is a Name however, meaning his reputation precedes him, therefore I’ll posit that the role he’s allegedly taken is not a one liner– and that he’s going to pleasantly surprise us.

Let us wait and see! Until then, please check out The Paperboy— it’s one of those films that Cusack did that’s little known, but was seriously, seriously amazing in, Matthew McConaughey, Nicole Kidman, and Zac Efron are in it as well. It’s a veritable feast for the senses, no lie.

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Validation Thy Name Is Julianne

Yeah, I know it’s a rumor. Yeah, I know it’s all unsubstantiated. And, yeah I know this has been covered about a million-trillion-billion different ways, evidenced by my inbox being flooded with Google alerts of articles, blurbs, and sky writing on the subject, but those millions-trillions-billions of ways are not my ways. Julianne Moore is rumored to be in talks for the coveted role of President Alma Coin, and for me this rumor is validation for all the ideas that have popped into my head, all the ones where I thought “that’ll never happen, Rebekah– go back to your corner, and think other things!” Nope, nuh uh, no sir-y, not this time, because this time an actress I personally fantasy cast in a substantial role, that I did not keep to myself, because I have kept many to myself– may actually get the part. At least that’s what I sacrificed my left toe for last week. Just kidding!

Yes, I know Julianne Moore was featured in a Campaigning for Coin article last week, but I’m gonna lay some behind the scenes info for you, she probably wouldn’t have made the Julianne-Moore-julianne-moore-253330_1280_1024line-up if I hadn’t put her name into the original pool of names that the fan-site contributors voted up or down on. See, I was the organizer of the preliminaries before the on going Campaigning for Coin articles were written up, and went live. I’d been collecting names, and photos, and ages on almost 100 actresses for months, and Julianne Moore was one of those women. And now I shall reveal more, because Julianne wasn’t even one of the most voted on actresses at any stage during the voting process, which lasted about two weeks if you’re at all curious, and Julianne in reality– sort of fell in the middle. Which pained me so, ’cause I’d already gotten on the Julianne Moore Train to District 13 or Bust Tour a long ass time ago! Naturally, I’m talking about that I had written a fan-casting article about Julianne Moore, along with Annette Bening, being a good choices for Coin– seven months ago. Sadly Annette Bening didn’t make the cut in that extensive voting process. Julianne did though, and for that I am grateful, also because many of the people who I also think would make totally kick-ass Alma Coins didn’t make the cut, like– not even slightly. However, many people that I don’t think would make awesome Alma Coins did make the cut, so– Even Steven as is said in some circles, right?

Yeah, I know I’m “tooting my own horn” here, but seriously, how often do fandom members get to do that at all, especially where it comes to something positive, like an Academy Award nominated, Golden Globe winning actress being cast in a role that brings more prestige, and respect to a franchise that’s allegedly geared at a certain base audiencescrabbled-message-word-never that many of us haven’t been a part of for several years? I’ll answer that question easily for you all, because the answer is NEVER. So, what do I say to all this? Just lemme have this one guys, just let it go, let this be a happy thing, a happy rumor, a happy moment for this franchise, let the ragging, and the “she’s not who I pictured… she’s not so and so, or such and such…” No she’s not, she’s Julianne Moore, and she’s one of the top actresses in her age bracket, and face it– in her field. The lady has played every kind of person imaginable; from drug addict, to house wife, to porn star, to performance artist, to painter, to doctor, to the potential vice president of the United States of America. If her dossier doesn’t pique your confidence in her abilities, then I don’t know what will– because the lady is not just the annoying pregnant woman from Nine Months. And, if you see Alma Coin as a crone in her 60s or 70s, then I’d suggest you stop that ASAP, because clearly the casting director, Francis Lawrence, Suzanne Collins, and well– Katniss Everdeen are not on the same page as you. So, get with the fancy times, and envision Alma Coin as a woman in her early 50s, who may possibly be a natural red-head.

Oh, if Lionsgate and/or Debra Zane wants to pull from any of my other casting ideas, Michael Cudlitz is available.

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Nail On The Head

julianne mooreUnless you’ve been living under a rock, the last week or so, the talk of the Hunger Games fandom has been mostly focused on one thing: the Julianne Moore rumor. Thursday, Deadline reported a rumor that Julianne Moore was being looked at to play President Alma Coin, and later in the day, The Hollywood Reporter went a step further and confirmed she’s been in early talks.  Both Deadline and THR have been known to be fairly reliable sources regarding casting news so all the fansites have been abuzz and several entertainment media outlets have run with the story. But there’s one thing…

Just two days prior, the fansites had done a Campaigning for Coin post on Julianne Moore. It seemed like such strange and incredibly coincidental timing. Did the fansites just predict casting out of the blue? That would be a first. Here are the two possible ways it could’ve gone. A) The fansites inadvertently started a rumor and all the entertainment media sites just ran with it or B) We are really just that good.gw154-timing_is_everything

As per usual, the media sites have been talking about the casting rumor as if it were fact, and some who clearly know nothing about the series seem rather confused about there being another president in THG. We however are a little more reserved since no one can forget the lesson we learned from the John C. Reilly rumor/fiasco.

But here’s a little lesson to take from all this. Maybe, just maybe, your favorite fansites know what we’re talking about.

For the record, we’d be very much delighted if this came true
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Justifiable Casting

This week’s been an odd one in the magical land of Catching Fire Casting News! I think the majority of us got quite comfortable with getting one casting announcement per week, but not only did we get one casting announcement this week, nope– we got four. Are we satisfied with our Chaff, our Enobaria, our Brutus, and our Gloss, though? I am, but one particular casting is making me sort of nervous, and also making me question the yet to be confirmed, and announced casting of the most anticipated character yet to be revealed to us– Finnick Odair. And the particular casting that’s making me all twisty in my stomach in both good and bad ways, is the casting of Alan Ritchson, as the District One male tribute for the 75th Hunger Games, Gloss.

Just look at that man! That’s a man right there, the kind of man that gets sculpted into 10 foot tall marble statues, and envied, and drooled over by every man, woman, and child on the planet with one or two working eyeballs. And I have to say, Googling pictures of him for the last two plus days has both been a joy, and a mounting source of depression. I’ll just say it! How the hell are they going to top casting someone like Alan Ritchson as Gloss, and then go and cast someone potentially like Sam Claflin as Finnick Odair? I don’t like making any of this about looks, but it’s justifiable to cast a man with a body and a face like Ritchson’s as Gloss, because Gloss is for the most part a body and a face, but when Finnick Odair is supposed to be the most desired man in all of the country, and he’s standing in close proximity to a near perfect human specimen, like Mr. Ritchson as Gloss– the believability in Finnick’s mass appeal will go down astronomically I predict. So, yeah– I’m nervous, because all rumblings, twitterings, spewings of rumored castings that have been as heated as Mr. Claflin’s, usually turn out to be true. Just think back to the rumors about Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Jena Malone– those rumors were loud, and they weren’t just saying “they auditioned!” Nope, the words being printed were “offered the role.” and “In talks.”

A week ago I was all for Claflin, I like the guy, he’s a talented actor, and I know that he can handle the emotional performance aspects of Finnick, he can also handle the charm, the humor, and the intelligence. But, yes– when you stand him next to Mr. Ritchson, at 6 foot 2 inches tall, and reportedly almost 250 lbs– you’re not going to be staring at Claflin, who’s only about 5’11, and whose weight is unknown, but I’m going to guess he’s probably about 160 to 172 lbs. I’m baffled, I’m staring at Mr. Ritchson with his perfect teeth and abs, and then looking at Claflin and going– “I’m sorry, I don’t want to see you in a golden net tied at your hip, unless you go on a fish, chicken, and broccoli diet, start flipping a 600 lbs tire down a deserted beach, and basically become best friends with a retired Navy Seal who likes to yell at you, or y’know– in a pinch, Ryan Lochte, and Michael Phelps.” Which is not happening, because I follow the guy on Twitter, and he’s having beer and Olympic viewing nights with friends. Which brings me to the confusing information that Claflin is in South Africa right now filming a made for TV movie, and Catching Fire’s production schedule is starting this month as well. Color me totally and completely confused.

Consolation prize in all of this is seven tiny words, John C. Reilly, and Taylor Kitsch. And the non-consolation prize, why isn’t all 6 foot 5 inches, and 220 lbs of talented, intelligent, and charming Armie Hammer available?

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The Feline Has Escaped the Sack

When Monday came around and the news that Jena Malone was officially cast in Catching Fire, I was actually amused.

Why?

Because my initial thought was “Is this because of Josh?”

Let’s back up here. Sunday night, the night before the announcement, after winning his Choice Movie Actor award at the Teen Choice Awards, Josh Hutcherson was interviewed by Access Hollywood about being excited about the Catching Fire cast, and he mentioned Jena Malone. At that point, there had not been confirmation that she was cast to play Johanna Mason. Essentially, he appeared to have let the cat out of the bag.

Never let this cat out of the bag

So I had to wonder, was this casting announcement actually scheduled for Monday? Could it have maybe been scheduled for today, but bumped up to avoid articles the next day full of speculation from the media. Beat them to the punch the next day before it can just be another sensationalized rumor article! Damage control!

Or then again it could’ve just been scheduled for Monday. Contrary to some whisperings I’ve been hearing, not all casting announcements come on Tuesdays. Amanda Plummer’s may have, but Philip Seymour Hoffman’s was on a Monday as well. So there is no way to divine when a casting announcement will happen. We just know they don’t happen on weekends. And there are still many spaces on CatchingFireCasting.com that need to be filled up! So be on alert. When casting for The Hunger Games happened, casting news came every day at one point (thanks to Savanna New for reminding us!).

And Josh, we hope you didn’t get in trouble! And we hope Lionsgate doesn’t make you get rid of your fledgeling sideburns as punishment (actually we do).

Something about Buttercup and the orange backpack
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Confirmed Unofficially

Dear media-

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I’m referring, of course, to the word “confirmed”.

Because all these news reports have gone out about Sam Claflin being confirmed to play Finnick and that it’s all official and blah blah blah. You know, it may be true. And I wouldn’t even be angry. I’d be the exact opposite of angry in fact because back when I saw Pirates 4 in theaters, I walked out of it totally in love with Sam Claflin. This isn’t about him. This is about the fact that the search for Finnick Odair is not over until Lionsgate sings.

Here’s what happened.

A site devoted to “polic[ing] the gossip industry” called Gossip Cop said that they have a “source” confirm that it was true. Other news sites and many fans have decided to take it as fact. The actual fact of the matter is that without naming the source we don’t know who is confirming this and all we can do is to trust that “Gossip Cop” has a reliable source. And you gotta wonder, as policers of the gossip industry, who polices them?

So here’s a sure fire way to know what is official and what isn’t. You ready?

Go here. Is the casting announcement there? What about here? If it isn’t on either one of those sites, and if there isn’t a link to a press release from Lionsgate – your trusty fansites and news media sites get those, you know – then whatever it is is strictly rumor. And if you want some good Catching Fire rumors, we’ve got the best ones.

Like I said, I’m not saying it’s not true. I’m saying you gotta be careful and don’t trust headlines. You’ll see CONFIRMED in the title, but reading further and between the lines, you’ll find out just how confirmed the news is.

Lastly, news is either official or it isn’t. “Close to being official” is still unofficial. Remember: not until Lionsgate sings.

Imagine this is Lionsgate.

Preferably some Carly Rae Jepsen. Because Sam Claflin can Call Me Maybe 😉
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Rumor Has It

As a fansite runner, it’s hard to just brush off news about The Hunger Games. You want to be informed about what everyone is talking about.

But lately, I must confess. I’ve just been straight up ignoring casting news and articles.

Why?

Because one day we’ll get some “So and so is the frontrunner for a role in Catching Fire” article and the next day it will be debunked, or worse, just forgotten. No really, one day it’s Catalina Sandino Moreno as Johanna, I leave to go on vacation, come back, and it’s Mia Wasikowska (who has since said she isn’t in the running), and I haven’t heard anything else about Catalina. Not saying she isn’t in the running anymore or ever was, but it’s slipped from the media’s consciousness.

So what’s my point?

Nothing is credible.

Correction: Nothing is credible… unless it’s confirmed by Lionsgate.

As we saw from Philip Seymour Hoffman’s offer to play Plutarch (remember the offer is confirmed, whether he has accepted is still up in the air), Lionsgate is confirming news, even though the lack of confirmed news is driving us crazy. We know that media outlets like The Hollywood Reporter are pretty reliable. Jim Bob’s Movie News*, though, not so much. Even some “established” media outlets like E! and Entertainment Weekly aren’t always as reliable as you would think.

The thing about posting and reporting rumors is that it’s okay to do it as long as they don’t say it’s official news. So their “source” could very well be the valet guy at the Four Seasons who overheard someone’s agent’s assistant trying to get their client an audition. You never know. And any article regarding Catching Fire and casting, no matter how bogus, gets tons of hits and comments. It only benefits media outlets to post rumor articles, it doesn’t matter if they’re even close to being true.

And watch out when the more reliable news sites pick up on unreliable news and just roll with it. It happens a lot. Several years ago, a small group of fans of a band I listen to strategically spread a rumor to see if it got picked up by anyone credible, and it did not take long to become a story on Yahoo! News, finally reaching the band themselves and forcing them to comment on it. The next day, it was revealed that they had intentionally spread the rumor as an experiment. You know. For the “lulz”. If a group of 5 16-to-21 year-olds could impact the headlines on Yahoo! for a joke, then you can imagine how things are with Catching Fire casting rumors.

So unless it says “official” or “confirmed” in the title, I ignore it, and it’s made me a less stressed fan.

As said on tonight’s HG Fireside Chateveryone is technically in the running for a spot in Catching Fire unless they say otherwise. Let’s just leave it at that.

Rumor has it she ain’t in the runnin’ anymore
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*Not a real site, I swear

The List

If you were with the fandom during The Hunger Games casting, you’ll know it’s prime rumor season. Rumors are flying in and out from every which way, and we’ve discussed and put to bed a few recently.

And no, this is not another Finnick rumor post. We’re going to go a step further and laugh about the “cast list” rumor. Somewhere along the line, it was said that soon we will be getting a big ole list of who will be playing whom in The Hunger Games: Catching Fire. And when we heard about this rumor, we were filled by sheer disbelief that this rumor was out there.

We know it was a whole year ago, but remember casting for The Hunger Games and how those announcements were handled? It was pretty much the exact opposite of a cast list, with Tributes being announced in pairs like the Reaping and   L      O       N       G   drawn out waits between the announcements of larger roles. We were on pins and needles with anticipation for a good couple of months.

And you better believe Lionsgate would want to do that again. We couldn’t remember the last time casting for a movie had so much hype surrounding it, where just the announcements of the actors became quite the spectacles themselves. The excitement over casting was a good early barometer for Lionsgate to have measured the hype, they would certainly want to do it again – though that kind of hype measurement isn’t exactly as necessary since the franchise is much, MUCH more in the public eye now, but we’re sure it’d still be nice to have.

 

CASTING… GET IT?!

This isn’t a high school play where they put up the cast list on the door of the gym. This is a MAJOR HOLLYWOOD MOVIE. Also, Lionsgate would be incredibly stupid to just show their hand in one go with a full-on cast list. All that hype wasted because they made all their announcements in one fell swoop.

So anyone hoping for a cast list, either some time soon or, you know, ever, we’re sorry to say that’s not going to happen. If it did, it would be the result of an extreme diversion from Lionsgate’s established strategy when it comes to handling the franchise.

Francis Lawrence is making a list, making his pick, gonna tell us who’s Beetee and Finnick (OR NOT)
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While It Lasted

Yesterday was a strange day, it started out slow, then it just picked up speed like a 16 year-old who’s just got their license and is out joyriding in the family station wagon. People still drive those, right? Yesterday, of course, was all about Finnick, or three Finnick’s if you will, and then some dude who simply doesn’t have a name yet, but could possibly be called Finnick too, who the hell knows. Yep, I’ve been going on about, if you haven’t guessed it yet, the Short-List rumors. Got to be said, I’m really getting tired of all the news I write on being based solely on rumors, I need some official information soon, or I’m going to do something stupid, really really stupid– like read a best-seller that’s not The Hunger Games.

I detest rumors, but I think I liked this one the best out of all the ones that have surfaced throughout my tenure of being an obsessed fan of this silly, yet wonderful series. I mean, what’s not to like, my favorite actor for Finnick was at the top of the list for the role, and two other guys I can tolerate were there too, and could

Our life blood?

possibly get into them if things go their way. Also, there was  tiny sprinkle of hope that real honest to god official news on the casting of Finnick may actually come out and say hello, however only at the end of the week. But, all that hope was quickly dashed by this afternoon, because the rumor, which it was always reported being, was ripped apart by another site, and thus I cried a thousand non-existent tears, and tried to vlog about it. Yep, I really need to stop doing that, nothing good can come of it, I swear on my dead cats soul.

When did Finnick get a facial tattoo?

The only thing good to come out of this short-lived rumor were two things: News of the audition pieces that will be required of whom ever is deemed Finnick material was released. And they will be: Finnick’s infamous sugar cube scene, and Finnick’s freakout in the arena when he hears the Jabberjay’s mimicking Annie’s voice. Yay! Oh, the other thing, which really isn’t a thing per se, is just knowing that even though the rumor was debunked, the same thing happened when information was slowly trickling in on the casting of The Hunger Games, and about 90% of the people ended up later coming out and saying “I auditioned!” Also, note: None of the people on that list has said a thing to the media about the role, except one of them– who said months ago that he’s not interested. One guess who said that, only one– make it count.

Unsubstantiated rumors are the worst, but at least no one on that list was ever on 90210, Glee, a former English model, or in a Disney musical.

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Dead In The Water

Why do I have the inexplicable urge to do the Told Ya’ So Dance/ Song Thing? Oh yeah, it’s because I’ve said it multiple times that rumors involving Mr. Robert Pattinson and The Hunger Games franchise are complete and utter fiction, and that you should probably just toss spit-balls at it rather than believe their so-called validity for half a nano second. I also have the urge to go “bitch, please…” and then roll my eyes all dramatic and completely worthy of hate, but you’ll never see that expression, ’cause I currently suck at doing vlogs. Seriously, I really do, everything tends to go wrong, it’s just not pretty– at all.

All right so, this week apparently Mr. Pattinson whilst attending Cannes in promotion for Cosmopolis, got wind of the rumors of him being “courted” for the role of Finnick

Robert Pattinson at Cannes, 2012

Odair, and he took it upon himself to investigate. Smart move, huh? I think so. The man called his agent, and his agent flat-out told him, according to USA Today, that in no uncertain terms that the likelihood of him being approached for the role is pretty much 0%. I unabashedly love this response, because even his agent knows that he’s wrong for the role, and also has the gumption to tell his client that in so many words. Honesty is the best policy right, and honestly, Pattinson will never ever be part of The Hunger Games family. As we’re on the honesty train here, I have to say that  I sort of harbor the desire that USA Today didn’t say the rumor that started 1. a Twitter Hash-tag denouncing fans desire for Pattinson to portray Finnick, and 2. at least two petitions against him playing Finnick, was– and I quote “…so good, that they even get the movie stars involved believing.” Really? I think I would have used the word bad instead of good, personally. Anyway, Can we now please go back to thinking on possible candidates for the role who aren’t currently known for playing vampires, pixies, faeries, werewolves, over privileged teens, glee club members, witches, warlocks, aliens, people who have fought aliens while we’re at it, or lastly are only known for portraying total assholes?

Glad That’s over, right?

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