Time for another reaction post, this time for the NEW CATCHING FIRE TRAILER! As you can tell, we’re still flailing!
If you’ve never seen our group reaction posts before, they can get pretty damn long. Therefore, we’ve contained most of it under a cut! So refresh yourself by watching the trailer once more, read on, and don’t forget to hit READ MORE for the full effect!
HELLO THERE, TENSION DRIVEN ANXIETY!
TGWTP: Okay! Let’s start with Katniss and Peeta and the Victory Tour. Was it what you were expecting?
Twiffidy: This seems like a much darker version of what I imagined the Victory Tour to be, but I like it!
Them There Eyes: Yes and no. I was expecting more glamour, but I honestly like the grittier side of it that they’ve shown in this.
Twiffidy: Yes exactly, a lot grittier.
Them There Eyes: I like it a lot. I wanted more darkness in the 1st film, so… this is actually living up to my expectations more than that, and I’ve only seen snippets.
TGWTP: Yes! I loved the first film, but I didn’t feel the tension like I wanted to, This time around. It’s there. You definitely see how the experience changed the characters too. The settings aren’t just dark, they are too.
Twiffidy: Totally, even Peeta who was smiling and waving on the train in the first movie
Them There Eyes: Yes! The 1st time I watched this trailer I didn’t take it all in. The second time, it took my breath away, it was so intense.
Twiffidy: He pretty much doesn’t smile.
Them There Eyes: Peeta’s lost his innocence, I think that’s what this trailer is telling the world.
TGWTP: I love that he’s unhappy but still gentle. They cut out his outburst in the attic from the trailer, but I hope it’s in the movie. It’s so powerful because he usually IS so sensitive.
Them There Eyes: I just remember how non-fans of the series watched the 1st film, and said they thought Peeta was weak. I don’t think they can call him weak anymore, he looks kind of pissed actually.
PEACEKEEPERS LOVE DOCTOR WHO
Them There Eyes: Can we please talk about the symbolism, of those Peacekeepers costumes!
Twiffidy: I’m really believing that “riot gear” theory from a while back
Them There Eyes: It’s seriously disturbing how their backs resemble a reptile, and then they go crawling, or slithering into that crowd of earth tones like they’re evil ice reptiles.
Twiffidy: Oh man, if that’s any foreshadowing to the reptile mutts…!
Them There Eyes: I never thought of that! But… yes please!
TGWTP: They’re definitely meant to look like a insect or reptilian sort of SWAT team
Them There Eyes: Oh, their helmets remind me of a monster from Doctor Who as well. I can’t recall, but it was a motor cycle geared up soulless cyborg type thing. I think it was from the Tennant era?
THE WHITE ROSE OF BROMANTIC DESIRE
TGWTP: Snow and Plutarch, anyone?
Twiffidy: I swear it reminds of Varys and Littlefinger talking at the counsel table on Game of Thrones
Them There Eyes: I am digging this whole new kind of canon, where the Gamemaker, and the president have little chats.
Twiffidy: Plotting the Games together.
Them There Eyes: And yes, it’s very Game of Thrones-y. I wish Tyrion would walk in and drag a chair to the other side of the room, and just… be amazing
TGWTP: Guys… I think I ship Snow/Plutarch now. Is that wrong?
Them There Eyes: Plutarch/Snow will be braiding each others hair soon… it’s bound to happen.
TGWTP: They bonded over their love of antique furniture and death and now they’ll live happily ever after, right?
Them There Eyes: Yes, happily ever after watching Finnick Odair do what he does best…
TGWTP: Until Plutarch totes turns out to be the best spy ever, that is. He’ll reluctant sneak out at that point, never to be heard from again!
Twiffidy: Snow seems to have way more respect for Plutarch than he did for Seneca.
Them There Eyes: Oh, yeah. He absolutely has more respect for him, he probably thinks he’s less of a threat ’cause he’s older, and a little bit fat, and more old fashioned.
Twiffidy: I think it’ll make the twist of Plutarch’s character that much more surprising. Also, Plutarch seems way less comical than he does in the books.
Them There Eyes: Yeah… maybe that’s just a persona he puts on for Katniss, and this is Closed Doors Plutarch?
TGWTP: Yes! They’ve made him sinister with Snow, which I think works better for film. Maybe in Mockingjay, we see that other side more?
Twiffidy: It’ll be interesting to seem how he acts in the open. The first movie implied that the Head Gamemaker is kind of a public figure.
Them There Eyes: Seneca was more than a figure, I think he was a celebrity in his own right, and then he got a big head because of it.
Them There Eyes: Also, gotta say it… I think it’s telling that Hoffman kept his New York accent. I also think it’s a “tell” to those who are paying attention that he’s a rebel.
Twiffidy: And yes, he could’ve done so many different kinds of voices for Plutarch, it seems like an interesting choice.
TGWTP: Yes, especially where Donald Sutherland’s voice is some much more structured and rigid.
TGWTP: I love how PSH says “They’ll hate her so much, they might just kill her for ya”. Honestly, that is my favorite line in the whole trailer. I DON’T KNOW WHY.
Them There Eyes: Because it’s so delicously evil?
TGWTP: YES, because it is so deliciously evil and so how I picture Plutarch!
Them There Eyes: Yes, a slimy pig in a great suit?
THE DEATH OF AN EXTRA
TGWTP: And then we get to the shooting in District 11 as all this talking is happening. Featuring the adorable old man chosen to inflict MAXIMUM PAIN.
Them There Eyes: Adorable man that Francis Lawrence probably painstakingly picked through hours of audition footage to find
Twiffidy: There is this one party where they are shoving him up to the front and it was a little too much for me to handle when I noticed it. I think it’s at that part where you can see Rue in the background.
Them There Eyes: What? You can see Rue?!
TGWTP: RUE IS ON THE JUMBOTRON!
Twiffidy: Yeah it’s gone around Tumblr, she’s kind of projected in the top right corner of the shot
TGWTP: I love that Katniss runs toward him, as if she can do something.
Them There Eyes: That’s what she does though… she volunteers for the innocent.
TGWTP: But you see the great vulnerability there too: She can’t save em all.
Them There Eyes: Nope… which we will see again in Mockingjay.
TGWTP: At least she pulls back in time. I would probably dive headfirst into that like an idiot.
Them There Eyes: Can we talk about Peeta’s reaction shot? Because Josh’s face is the stuff of legends in those few frames.
TGWTP: The scared little boy shot? I love it so much.
Them There Eyes: He was the stoic man-boy out on that stage, then bam! Literally… bam!
TGWTP: I kind of want to cradle him in my bosom and pet his head until he calms down. Again… totally normal, right?
Twiffidy: Totally normal.
Them There Eyes: Totally… just don’t try to feed him like Catlyn’s weird sister.
TGWTP: Allllll set there, thanks!
Them There Eyes: Sorry. Game of Thrones is on the brain.
Twiffidy: Anyway it’s that holy shit moment, he’s basically projecting what we the audience are feeling
Them There Eyes: Yep, Peeta is the audiences conscience in many ways.
TGWTP: Exactly. It works brilliantly. I don’t think we’d ever see it from Katniss, so it’s awesome that it’s there through Peeta.
Them There Eyes: Once again… we need Peeta like we need bread.
COAL MINING COSMETICS BY GALE HAWTHORNE
TGWTP: Can we move on to Gale?
Them There Eyes: Okay, Mr. Hawthorne come on down…. the mine shaft.
Twiffidy: Smudgy face!
TGWTP: And muscle bod!
Twiffidy: He’s definitely been working in the mines… I feel like I should be eyebrow-lifting!
Them There Eyes: Does he have more cheekbone, or as that just artfully placed smudge?
Twiffidy: Like bronzer!
Them There Eyes: Nope, fake dirt. Or maybe it’s real dirt? Maybe Liam’s a method actor?
TGWTP: Apparently, all miners wear a thick layer of manly bronzer, just in case the coal dust doesn’t stick enough naturally?
Them There Eyes: Great, no wonder that lot of “Gale Miners” on CL Casting’s Facebook page were so eager to do re-shoots! They love makeup!
TGWTP: On Fireside Chat, Adam said he thought we’d see a lot more of Gale, but I feel like we’re seeing most of Gale’s scenes in these few seconds
Them There Eyes: Maybe showing more Gale is to appease the Gale fans? I doubt that though…
TGWTP: I think it’s too create more tension. People see then talking then KISSING and then there are whips (and not in the sexy way) all in quick succession, leaving everyone who doesn’t know the books like “WAIT… WHAT?!”
Twiffidy: Also I’m a fan of them tricking the non book readers.
Them There Eyes: I know, my initial reaction to the trailer was that newbies are going to be like “Wait a second, I thought this was like a teen drama book!? What’s with the riots, and the guns, and the dirty people!?”
TGWTP: They deserve to be tricked, if they’re too lazy to read. Muahahaha!
Twiffidy: Exactly, some serious shit goes down. And it’s very much in a way that rebellions happen in history, so even though it’s in a fictional world, it feels real.
Them There Eyes: It does! I’m seeing so many similarities between photos/footage from Egypt, and other revolutions in history. Like the homemade Mockingjay sign.
Twiffidy: They took a lot of real life imagery as inspiration, it’s really great
TGWTP: Yeah, definite notes of Arab Spring.
Them There Eyes: I wholeheartedly approve!
TAKING JOY IN TORTURE
Them There Eyes: Oooh, oooh! To those who thought they’d cut Gale’s whipping scene… What do ya’ say now?!
Twiffidy: I honestly don’t know where people would get that idea in the first place.
TGWTP: I LOVE ROMULUS THREAD.
Twiffidy: Yes, he seems EVIL.
Them There Eyes: Yep, we got ourselves real honest proof that Thread isn’t just a name on IMDB!
TGWTP: I don’t know why, but I find him Christoph Waltz-y. Probably because of the smile while he’s whipping someone.
Them There Eyes: Although only readers will know he’s Thread.
Twiffidy: It’s OK, Effie didn’t get named in the first movie and she’s kind of a big deal
THE LAVENDER ICING DISCO BALL
TGWTP: Effie kind of delights me in her ignorance. I feel like they can use that to make some really sharp contrasts in this film. She’s so proud, genuinely proud. Who knows when she’ll really notice the problems?
Them There Eyes: Yes, she’s such a little flighty bird, and she dresses like one too.
TGWTP: She looks like a poodle some “fashion forward” owner dyed lavender!
Them There Eyes: I know. It’s awesome.
Twiffidy: Or like she’s wearing lavender icing?
Them There Eyes: I want to snog the costume designer for pulling all this amazing designer clothing.
Twiffidy: She’s so great, I’m really impressed with her.
TGWTP: More Alexander McQueen! It seems she’s definitely got a running list of favorite designers. They’re all great, though.
Them There Eyes: She kind of reminds me of a party decoration… Effie I mean. like one of those paper balls you hang…
Them There Eyes: Yep, the McQueen fashions are back in full force.
TGWTP: I feel like you could suspend her above the crowd and shine a light on her and BAM! Disco!
Them There Eyes: Yeah, she’d probably like that too! It would mean she’s the center of attention.
TGWTP: Final thoughts, ladies?
Them There Eyes: Yeah! Final thoughts just like Jerry Springer!
Twiffidy: I was really impressed with how much we were able to see, and yet how it was still very much a teaser in that there was so much more to see. You get the feeling that this is a much more sinister animal than the first movie and can feel that it is a ramp up to something bigger. Well done, I think.
TGWTP: The trailer really showed off the best pre-games action, getting flashy without making the plot feel redundant. I’m psyched to really feel the tension this time around and OH MY GOD GUYS, WE’VE BARELY EVEN SEEN ANYTHING YET AND I’M DYING.
Them There Eyes: I think this trailer does what I hoped it would… pleased old fans of the series, and hopefully intrigued Hunger Games virgins. I also think that this trailer says loud and clear “THIS IS NOT THE HUNGER GAMES!!!” It doesn’t even mention The Hunger Games, which I also think is key to the element of surprise when… dun, dun, DUN… they go back into the games.
Them There Eyes: Oh, also… Peeta’s all in leather. 😀